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The origins of the Japanese People

Postby chiuchimu » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:14 pm

who are we? genetics say we are close to Koreans but we don't look Korean at all. Also, compared to other Asian groups, Japanese have Caucasian features. Not as prominent as say Filipinos but we clearly have them compared to say Chinese and Koreans.

Here are TV people that I believe have strong caucasion like features but to the best of my knowledge are pure Japanese:
Fukuyama Masahiro
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Hirai Ken
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Hirose Ryoko
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Moriyasu Madoka
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Re: Who were the Yayoi and Jomon?

Postby dogsbody74 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:59 pm

it is interesting really. I should imagine that during the years when Japan was isolated there was not the influence from other countries. I personally find it hard to distinguish between Asians. There must be resemblance from the Mongol period for many other Asian countries. during wars no doubt there would have been fresh blood from other countries also. After ww2 there must have been lots of american blood. Which is pretty mixed anyway.
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Re: Who were the Yayoi and Jomon?

Postby chiuchimu » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:35 am

I'm actually thinking thousands of years ago. genitics say earliest Japanese peoples come from North Asia. But what does that mean? Are the current Asians in north Asia the same today as two thousand years ago?
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Re: The origins of the Japanese People

Postby chiuchimu » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:48 pm

The most recent research reveals Ainu are the decedents of the Jomon and the Jomon originated from North Eastern Asia as opposed to South western Asia as previously thought.

http://www.pitt.edu/~annj/courses/notes/jomon_genes.html
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Re: The origins of the Japanese People

Postby TheOddGuy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:08 pm

Scientific consortium maps the range of genetic diversity in Asia, and traces the genetic origins of Asian populations

As an anthropologist, I always wanted to know if Asians, known for their extensive linguistic and ethnic diversity also have a substantial level of genetic variation. In other words, do they have a common or multiple origins? Or whether the ancestors of Negritos from Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia differ from those of their neighboring Asians? Or what binds us more: language or geography? The recent paper published in Science by the HUGO Pan-Asian SNP Consortium – Mapping Human Genetic Diversity in Asia quintessentially answers these fundamental questions which have been floating around for years.

To the best of my understanding, so far, this is the only paper where 73 populations scattered across 10 Asian countries are studied together through a massive collaborative effort of scientists from 40 institutes mostly from Asia (~2000 samples covering almost entire spectrum of linguistic and ethnic diversity were genotyped for ~50000 single nucleotide polymorphic markers). Some of the key findings of this paper are:

· East and Southeast Asians share a common origin.
· East Asians have mainly originated from South East Asian populations with minor contributions from Central-South Asian groups.
· A common ancestor of the Negrito and non-Negrito populations of Asia entered into the continent. This supports the hypothesis of one wave of migration into Asia as opposed to two waves of migrations from Africa.
· The Taiwan aborigines are derived from Austronesian populations. This stands in contrast to the suggestion that this island served as the ancestral “homeland” for Austronesian speaking populations throughout the Indo-Pacific.
· Genetic ancestry is highly correlated with linguistic affiliations as well as geography.

The paper stands out in its attempt to understand the peopling of Asia and their genetic relationships and in the process it not only presents a fantastic genotype database but also provides vital clues to scientists of diverse fields –from linguistics to archeology to human genetics. For example, it may be an interesting proposition for a human geneticist to examine if East and Southeast Asians share, more than expected, risk alleles associated with diseases. Likewise, it may be time for the linguists to re-look at the “birthplace” of the Austronesian linguistic family. I hope the consortium continues with their amazing endeavor and include a lot more number of important and isolated populations from whole of Asia and move beyond the analysis of Single Nucleotide Polymorphism to other kinds such as structural variations.


The majority of East Asians are from South East Asia. Cool.
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